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Laser C-Rig history

6 March 2019

It’s been about 4 months since Eric Faust (Exc Sec of ILCA) showed the C5 video at Sarasota, which was then shown on Sailing Anarchy, Scuttlebutt and other social media platforms and some suggested that I should not add facts to spoil a good conspiracy theory.

It’s time to just set the record straight so the conversation can be re-centred.

C-Rigs, as they have become known, spun out of a far more comprehensive rig development project that Up Marine started in 2012.   In chronological order:-

Up Marine decided to use the Laser because of its superior numbers and simplicity.

Chris Caldecott (GM, PSA) found out about the project, mid 2014 and asked if we could ‘screw’ the development to generate a new carbon rig for the Laser.   MoU’s were generated and we altered focus a little.

At the 2014 ILCA conference (Nov), I am told, Chris showed photos and reported on the development.

2015 a Worldwide Patent was applied for (by Up Marine) and has been subsequently granted.

2015 ILCA conference (Oct), what is now referred to as the C8 rig, was reported in glowing terms and I am told that focus changed from the C8 prospect to the C5 and the plight of Asians given that the 4.7 rig which is hugely successful in Europe, has failed to gain traction elsewhere to any reasonable level.   Hugh Leicester (VP ILCA), Chris Caldecott and I met on the sidelines of the Sail Sydney regatta and Hugh saw the rig first hand.

There is correspondence between ILCA and PSA re the rigs, expressing “excitement”.

Just a side note, at this point the C-rig project had chewed through 28 masts, and 4 sails! It had been sailed by the likes of Tom Burton, Gerard West, Brett Perry and possibly 10 other biggish sailors. What has become known as the Flame Rig photo, the boat is being sailed by Chris Caldecott and the photo was taken by myself, in Chowder Bay Sydney 17th Dec 2015.

In February 2016, Prof Tracy Usher (Pres of ILCA) travelled from San Francisco to Sydney for the day to sail the C8.    Subsequent meeting at the Royal Sheaf hotel with Tracy, Hugh, Chris and myself started to map out a process but at this stage, the Asian issue and the lack of traction of the 4.7 started to come to the fore.

Mid 2016, lead builder started to move from PSA to PSJ, mostly due to the physical stature of the principals.     Chris is 95kgs and a big man, whereas Takao Otani (Owner, MD PSJ) is significantly lighter.

Plus, Takao and I had met in Montreal in 1978 under the watchful eye of the late great Ian Bruce and had become life long friends.    Takao was pivotal in the 49er and 29er programs being a founding partner.   The 29er just would not have happened without Takao, so there was considerable history between the 2 of us.

By late 2016 a complete re-thinking of the smaller stature rig had started and we trialled various breakthroughs, the biggest one was the spliced mast which allowed us to get the Centre of Effort in the right place WRT the CLR which in turn leads to weather helm (or in this case lack of it) without ridiculous mast bend, which leads to longevity and ease of pulling the mainsail up.

By Early 2017, what is now known as the C5 was being sailed out of RSYS, by their junior program and a rolling development program had been put in place in which the rig and the fitting development evolved at a rapid rate.    Nothing quite like arm’s length testing.

There were various meetings between Tracy, Eric, the late Jeff Martin, Takao and myself, mostly at WS conferences.

Early 2018 Takao visited Sydney and sailed the new C5 rig and was very impressed, it was a day of a lot of wind.  (Takao had not seen the C8 so I sailed it) and videos were made, these videos were sent back to Tracy and ILCA and a decision was taken that ILCA should generate (and pay for) a video before the next WS Conference, which was May 2018.

The weather did not co-operate so there were a few attempts but we did get the video to London in May, but it was not shown.   I was overseas at the time, this job fell to my son, Harry.

March 2018, Up Marine and PSJ entered into a formal contractual arrangement WRT the C-Rigs.

Mid 2018 both Tracy and Eric travelled to Sydney to, among other things, see the C5 which again happened at RSYS and the “talking head clips” that you see in the video were done then.

Also mid 2018 the project spun off the 29erC rig that is now being used in China extensively!

One of the C5 rigs was flown to Japan for Takao to test in the local market. That lead to some subtle but significant modifications.

There was a meeting on the sidelines of Sarasota WS Conference between Takao, Tracy, Chris, Jeff, Eric and myself re the introduction of the C5.

By late 2018 ILCA/ALCA had decided that the C5 should be released into a nationwide (Australia) trial.

Ken Hurling (Pres ALCA & VP ILCA) who was already aware of the project embraced this opportunity with both hands, and the minutes of those meetings are in the public space, so I won’t repeat them.

The last 4 months has been chaotic.

We took the decision, that if you are going to have a family of rigs, then you have to actually make them otherwise you have no idea of what pit-falls await you, so we did just that, C8 was relatively easy until we made the decision that all rigs should be of such a length they can be “checked in” as over size luggage on most commercial flights.    C5 & C6 are relatively easy.   C8 is more complicated.

Clive Watts (owner of CST) developed a new technique to “kink” the mandrel in the winding process, so it comes off the machine finished.  Click on image to enlarge.

The rig then went to Davenport, Tasmania to be sailed by as many kids as wanted to, it was flown back, and along with the C6 underwent 5 days of intensive testing and refinement by Takao and myself including Ian MacDiarmid tweaking the sails daily, fitting changes, re-running systems. This all happened Dec 2018.

ILCA wanted the C5 rig with a full specification “suitable for the LCM” so they engaged Clive Humphries (tech officer, ILCA) to generate the whole spec.   Clive travelled to China with Ian to oversee the whole sail making process, he also liaised with Clive Watts about the mast making process and he spoke with me and has a full set of drawings/3d files.

Feb  2018 some parts of the project have been spun off to be used on the 49er- FX rigs post Tokyo!

2 days ago, we (Chris, Ian, Clive Watts and I) put every rig in a Laser and checked the whole process and those 3 rigs, C5, C6 and C8 are on their way to Valencia.

The plan is to produce 100 C5 rigs for Australia over the next 4 months and scatter them across the country with a few leaking into Asia and no doubt to other parts to test the whole process that we have gone through to ensure it is fit for market.

Again, ALCA position, how they plan to do that along with PSA, is in the public domain.

Arms-length testing is critical, we have learnt that time and time again, nothing beats it.

From my POV, the C5 is near perfect in terms of a final product.

The C6, yes I have sailed it, and I have watched Takao sail it, but I have not seen a young 60kg girl/boy sail it.  It has been sailed extensively with glowing reports, but I can’t sign it off unless I see it with my own eyes.     That will happen mid this year maybe, and there will be maybe 5 rigs made.

The C8, in a previous incarnation, I have sailed many times, in everything from 5 – 30 knots, I have tried to break it, I have also capsized it and it’s a lot of fun.     We are not done on the “checked luggage” solution yet, but the rig looks good.   Chris has sailed it and believes it’s “fit for purpose!”.

Again, that will all happen later this year maybe, and there will be maybe 5 rigs made for test.

The feedback from Ken, the analysis of the feedback coming from SM, particularly the interest coming from Asia, in particular for the C5 concept would tell me that Tracy and the ILCA/ALCA have hit the nail right on the head.   This has been a clever, think outside the box, structured plan.

This will always be a situation in flux, and change is always painful, but if done well, it always leads to significant up-side, and if you need any examples of that, the Radial rig is a case in point as is the Carbon rig on the 49er/FX –  both have lead to significant growth in the classes and in the case of the 49er/FX massive reductions in running cost.

It will be a busy year.

Julian Bethwaite

Gybing a 29er

Gybing a 29er

Aim – perform 10 really good gybes in a row

What to look for – smooth roll, with the rig moving from one side to the other

without any wobbles

How – keeping the spinnaker full

Who – division of tasks, break them down into small units

No matter what the manoeuvre, always aim to perform it smoothly. The only thing that changes as the breeze increases, is that the time taken to perform the action will decrease. Imagine someone who is on a coach boat behind you looking directly along the centreline of the 29er and watching the rig move across the skyline. It should be steady at all times and during tacks and gybes, the rig should move in a smooth arc, particularly in light air so that the airflow across the sails can stay attached and generate power.

Light air gybing is quite easy, providing you understand that the angle of the breeze changes as you swing the boat through the gybe.

Try a simple exercise taking the boat through a gybe slowly and then more quickly. You will find that in very light air your gybing angle will be around 140°. As you take the boat through the gybe slowly, the spinnaker will collapse, the boat will slow down and it will take quite a long time for the sails to fill with air again. But if you swing the boat quickly through the gybe, holding the spinnaker until it backs before allowing it to fall past the forestay and set on the new gybe, you will maintain your speed for longer. You will also find that once you are settled on the new gybe you will be able to bear away a few degrees.

29er gybing

 

The lighter the breeze, the more critical it becomes to understand Apparent Wind. This is because the boatspeed you are generating downwind will often be greater than the actual breeze strength, so the direction of the wind will change substantially as you sail along. This is why the mainsail almost never gets eased right out, even when the wind is coming from behind.

Your wind indicator at the top of the mast is a very useful guide as to the direction of the apparent wind, so it’s a good idea to have something up there that is quite sensitive in light air.

Coming back to gybing in light air, as you turn the boat downwind and through the gybe, the boat will slow down and the apparent wind will then change substantially back towards the True Wind direction. So it is really important that the turn is smooth and consistent, otherwise the spinnaker will collapse and it will take a very long time to build boatspeed again.

It should take no longer than 1½ to 2 seconds to go from a full spinnaker on one gybe, to a full spinnaker on the new gybe.

Nicky Bethwaite

GOING SAILING IN LIGHT AIR

By Nicky Bethwaite

2-8 knots or 1-4m/s

Exercises on the Water for 1 boat

Tacking

Aim – perform 10 really good tacks in a row

What to look for – smooth roll, with the rig moving from one side to the other without any wobbles

Practise half the tack first by rounding up to the head-to-wind position and then falling back to the original course.  Usually the helm will say something like – ‘ready to tack?’.  It’s a good idea for the helm to wait for an acknowledgement from the crew (‘ready’) so that you both move together.  Analyse who is going to move first and how much.  So that minimal rudder is used, the boat should be heeled to leeward first, helping it to round up.  Practise this a few times until you’ve got it smooth.  Tip – take one big step across the boat instead of several small ones as this has a bigger effect in less time.

When you’re happy with half the tack, go ahead and complete it.  Usually the turn in the first half of the tack is a bit slower than the turn out.  As the boat goes past head to wind, the helm settles the boat onto its new course which may be a few degrees lower than necessary so that you can build speed.  This is only desirable in 4kts and under, above this there is no advantage in turning the boat past the ideal windward course.

There is co-ordination required between the forward hand and helm so that both the jib and main are eased a little going through the tack and are brought on together as the boat settles onto its new course. The main will probably have to be sheeted on quite sharply so as to ‘pop’ the battens through. Do this at the same time as bringing the boat upright in quite a quick movement but it’s really important to keep it smooth. For maximum effect, the boat should be brought upright at the same time as the sails are sheeted on as this will give maximum acceleration up to full speed.  In light air, it is a good idea for the helm to handle the mainsheet through the tack.

Light air tacking

INCREASED TACKING ANGLE IN LIGHT AIR

 

In 2-4kts (1-2m/s) you can expect to tack through an angle of around 100°.  As the breeze increases, the angle will decrease so that in 5-8kts (2.5-4m/s) you should be looking at 90°.  The best way to guess this angle is for the helm to take a look over his/her shoulder before the tack and pick a point on the shore that is about where you’d expect the bow to be pointing after the tack.

The helm should always be facing forward during the tack and as the bow approaches the point you have picked, slow the turn down and bring the rig upright.  If you don’t have a shore as an indicator, use the jib as a reference point, so that as it fills the boat stops turning.  Your tack in light air will be slower than in stronger breeze.  It is really important not to turn the boat too far, otherwise you waste a lot of time and distance coming back up to course.

As a guide, in 2-4kts (1-2m/s), the time taken to tack (full speed to full speed) is around 12 seconds. In 5-8kts (2.5-4m/s) it decreases to approximately 8s. If the water is rough then it takes a little longer.

 

 

Sailing pathways for kids

Connecting the Dots – Julian Bethwaite

Originally published on Sailing Anarchy website 13 August 2015.

For the umpteenth time I was asked 2 weeks ago what boats should a 12 year old Opie kid sail to best place him in a 49er when he gets into his late teens, early 20’s.

This mum was very smart, far greater grasp of numbers than I, spreadsheets, etc, but I still struggled to get the flow across, so I generated the following graphical representation, and she has come back and said, and I quote  “Thanks for following up. Interesting graphical depiction of the relative properties of these classes of boats, brings the stats to life.”

So, what I am seeking from you guys/gals is a peer review!

I could give you all my figures, but I think that would predispose a bias, which I have little doubt I will be accused of.   Instead, I plan to explain my rationale, and asked others to have a go at their own interpretation and maybe we can blend them and end up with something meaningful.

So what I have done is go to the RYA site and dig out the relevant PY [Portsmouth Yardstick] numbers.
http://www.rya.org.u… PN List v6.pdf
I have picked the boats mostly on simplicity, firstly if I did not know them, then I could not represent them.

I then went into the ISAF site and looked up the technical data
http://www.sailing.o…pment/index.php

So I have exclusively used that information unless the RYA/ISAF data was simply wrong in which case I went into that class’s rules and gleaned it from there.

An example, 470 appears not to have a PY number, so I worked out approx. where it should be.

I included the IC because it’s too interesting not to.

And we all know a moth sails heeled to windward and greatly increases its RM by doing so, where as a Laser, when sailed “flat” is actually heeled about 6° to leeward.
I have not imputed these shifts in CoB, I have assumed the boats are all bolt upright as per their numbers.

Finally, I have used the ISAF HP definition about sailing faster than the wind, downwind, most of the time, to draw the red line.

Career Path Sept 2015 copyHigh Performance Sailing Career Path for 9ers

Not sure why a 470 does not do it more often (tack downwind), but we also know a 29er does, most of the time (and yes, I know why a 29er does).

What is irrefutable is that a 5o5 and to a lesser extent a I14, spend a lot of money and effort setting their boats up so they can quite deliberately switch to HP modes both up-wind and down wind, so, from my POV I consider the 5o5, the tipping point boat, it has a foot in both camps, one could say the best of both worlds.

So the lobes etc on the graph.

PY is pretty easy, bottom of the solid is the PY number.

Displacement to the left of the graph is based on Power to Weight ratio.

Then the Circle compared to the Oval, has to do with RM/SailArea.

So a Moth is round because it has the same SailArea upwind as down, so my thinking is that a sailors ability to create a difference is equally possibly up-wind as it is downwind, where as a 49er the performance opportunities are greater down-wind because of the spinnaker.

The ovals are vertical because boats go a lot faster down-wind than they do up-wind.

That’s enough from me, be really keen on some other ideas on this.
Love to hear your comments, and be rest assured I won’t be offended!

In response to some of the questions and feedback on Sailing Anarchy, Julian made the following comments:

14 August 2015
Did not include a F11 because it does not have a PY. But I thought I had to include a 470 because it’s an Olympic class though I did not include a RSX because I was sure that I would get it too far out and it’s not a pathway to the original question which is a 49er/FX.

Can flip the graph, that’s easy.

To get the ovals or the dia of the circles I put the sail area over the RM.

So the width of the oval or the dia of the circle is the working sail area of RM

The height of the oval is the working sail area plus the spinnaker so total sail area of the RM.

I orientated the ovals vertically because as you go upwards you get more performance and most boats go faster under spinnaker than not.

16 August 2015
Stanno, re the F11, its very much an Australian boat, that has pluses and minuses.  And it has no PY number, (this whole document is heavily English skewed.)   I have never sailed a F11, I certainly have worked on them and admired them from afar, great kids boat, in the same vein as what is being proposed here they would be better than a RS Feva but its biggest drawback is no international competition.    Kids need to be “blooded” in an international event before they are 17, 20 at the outside.   That event can be in your case, Australia, but you need an international class with 100+ boats.

JimC, thanks for the 973PY for a 470, I will move it, it will virtually overlap a Fireball, and, OK, once you move it back down the graph, then why they don’t tack downwind becomes obvious.      Nicky and I in Cherubs, remember spending a lot of time on the wire downwind and these had much smaller spinnakers than they do today, so I can only assume we were running apparents.

Doug, I will flip the graph for you, but your colour concept I’m not sure is relevant.

Steve, my intuitive take is as you go up the graph, you go faster, down you go slower, in its present form, as you go left, you’re increasing power, as you go right you’re decreasing power, just trying to KISS and give the umpteenth+1 mum something I can explain over the time it takes to drink a cup of coffee without getting into semantics.

FY, every 29er skipper gunwale swings, yet they have no issue whatsoever going double trapeze-ing on a 49er every chance they get.

My take, and I know I’m getting subjective here which I really want to avoid is that trapeze-ing is functional, it can be learnt by just about anyone and with practice you get good at it.   Apparent Wind Sailing [AWS] is subliminal, it has to become intuitive.   Bit like learning a 2nd language, got to do it before your 17-18 or it becomes a whole different learning problem.

Re fast boats, there is very much a place for going out sailing in a slow boat in a big fleet, Laser for instance, and learning the discipline of grinding out those places and being very tactical.   Sailing a single hander is great because you can’t blame anyone else when you muck up.

But nothing beats learning to work as a team.    And learning in a fast boat just exaggerates that process because get it wrong you get wet.

Rasspuit, when you find it let me know!

Simon, I don’t want to go rocking axis’s because that implies bias, but you certainly have me thinking that WRT P/W ratio!   We can work off a mean PW rather than an absolute and that will put roughly 1/2 the boats on one side and the other half on the other.     We then can compress the vertical scale to get it to nicely fill an A4 page.

And by doing that you’re not being subjective, you will also get your 2 quadrants.

And you then can evoke the ISAF paradigm, WRT HP and draw a horizontal line there.

Worth a try, I will have to get my son to send me the file, see if I can do this in the next 24 hrs and we can re-convene!

Thankyou, JB

16 August 2015
Also I point out this is unashamedly targeted at 49er, these kids and these parents what their kids to go down this path.

I’m sure there are an equal number of kids and parents that want to go down a Corinthian path also.
But that’s not what I am being asked, and it’s not my problem, maybe the sport’s but not mine.

Anyway, I have had another go based on Simon’s suggestions, but I have not flipped the graph, its simply too hard on a laptop.

All I have done is re-configure the horizontal scale so compressed the PY’s and then finding a mean because a bit arbitrary based on areas of the ovals/circles so it was very close to running through the 5o5, so I just used it, once again as the mean boat.

Let me know your thoughts.

Jb

17 August 2015
Some of you are missing the point of this, that was, a mum, for the umpteenth time asked me what steps where needed to get her little Johnny from Opie to 49er in such a way that he had a chance.

There are possibly 1000’s of track with 1000’s of outcomes, yes the 13ft skiff is a great boat, very Australian, but its directly up against the Cherub and it’s not gaining traction and if you put a 17 year old that has had one or 2 international events in say a 29er in a close to 200 boat fleet and his/her counterpart who has come out of the Manly 16ftskiff program in 13ft skiffs, in a 49er in Hyeres then blind Freddy knows what that answer will be.

And which IC PY number’s relevancy, its 25 places, seriously important to a IC sailor but to a parent wanting to know which way to go, I think not! For a US kid, I think that a stint in IC’s would do no end of good in learning AWS, just like a stint for a Manly (Sydney) sailor a 13ft skiff is good cheap path, but to cut it in the world of int 49er sailing you’re only putting off the inevitable and setting yourself up for tears.

I’m getting subjective now, and that’s defeating the point.   I will stop.

The comments on price are also very interesting, and I do remember way back 2001 maybe there was a ISAF report on the cost of sails.    It was done suitably at arms length, taking internet based prices and displaying them in terms of sq-m.     Its possibly worth digging that out and up-dating it.

Hulls are a bit more difficult as most serious campaigns have 3 boats for logistic reasons.     Even your keen 29er sailor leaves a boat in the UK for 2 years these days just to beat logistics and charter fees and then has another back home and cycles them, again approximately every 2 years.

That’s possibly a useful contribution.    Let me come back to you with that.     But it will be a few weeks, that will require some information.

Julian

Golden Rules of Racing – can you add any more?

Gathered by Nicky Bethwaite over many years of competition

General

  • Minimize tacks
  • Clear air is priority
  • In light air always pick a side of the course to sail, avoid the middle
  • Default position at the top mark is a bear away set
  • Always have 1st leg plan
  • Read Sailing Instructions as a team together
  • Don’t over stand layline
  • Know your position relative to the rhumbline
  • Perfect your own job before you perfect someone else’s
  • Must be ruthless on minimizing losses, every half boat length adds up in placement at top mark

Starts

  • If you want to go right, start on the right
  • If you want to go left, start on the left
  • Never tack off a reach (lose too much in sideways movement)
  • On a line with strong port tack bias, approach deep on starboard so as to minimise speed loss in tack
  • In light air last 30sec sail your own boat
  • Make hole to leeward
  • In light air, assume starboard approach 1-2 mins before start
  • In medium air, get onto stbd 30-45s before start, no later

Upwind

  • Do less tacks than the opposition
  • Always sail longest tack first. Gets you in phase and doesn’t allow opposition to get in control up the track.
  • If in doubt stay between your opposition and the next mark
  • There are usually only one or two shifts per leg
  • In light air go for speed to the next shift or pressure band rather than sail high (usually more oscillations in light air)
  • Look up the track and anticipate what the likely outcome of your actions will be, and then react accordingly before you are forced to.
  • In crossing situations make sure your actions affect the other boat.
  • Quickly assess if there is an opportunity to consolidate a gain off the start line (or minimize a loss)
  • Look for the first shift.
  • Learn to stay on the weather hip of the leading boat, this needs practice, crew working very hard and helmsman steering very accurately.
  • “Each crew member must have pride in what he/she is doing. Must want to be the best”
  • Good trimmers get more pleasure out of trimming a bad sail and making it look good than trimming a good looking sail.
  • Start to leeward of a bunch in under 12kts
  • Tack on other boat’s line do not cross and then tack

Downwind

  • Sail the longest gybe first
  • At the top mark, do a bear-away set unless there is a very good reason not to
  • Minimum crosses of the boat behind
  • Look at windex of leeward boat not your own
  • Tidy roundings make big gains
  • Light air top mark roundings keep speed on by sailing high till kite set
  • Be aware of what a bunch does to the wind at the top mark